My main pirate is a swashbuckler and I agree with you. I've been playing just fine AND I've soloed most of the game by far. I have no complaints when it comes to buffs and heavy armor. I mean it would be cool, but we don't need them. I'm doing just fine without them. Audrey Carter-55

Now buccaneers... My buccaneer is still a low level so I don't really have much experience with her to actually say what a buccaneer would and would not need. Payton Carter-8

Buccaneers should have a way to double their hitpoints, or they should get a class buff doubling hitpoints straight from kingsisle.

How about this, swashbucklers get relentless and buccaneers get second chance, fair enough?

TheDragonspyrePira... on Jan 26, 2014 wrote:

First off I hear lots of swashbucklers saying buccaneers shouldn't get anything new that they have like relentless. They say buccaneers are meant to be tanks not damage dealers, I hear you guys saying you guys want heavy armor and buff. Let me say swashbucklers are meant to be damage dealers not tanks. You guys say we shouldn't get anything new. I see posts saying you guys should get new stuff but your already better than us so why should you? Another thing buccaneers have the least amount of natural companions or companions you don't have to pay for. That means we don't get allot of good options. You however do. And most of are companions are low health. We get allot of swashbuckler companions but they are terrible, you get allot of buccaneer companions and they are good. Not fair at all... Not at all. You guys really don't need allot of new stuff but we do. Nothing is really unique to us. It can all be farmed. Buccaneers deserve something cool and unique for once, something that will help in pvp and battles. Nothing you can get. If you have any thing to add post below

Jack nightgale lvl 61 Buccaneer

Friend, I think we have some differences and similarities, but I think you got some stuff wrong here. As far as I can remember we only have 3 good buccaneer companions (Good ol Subodai, Ratbeard, and a monkey). We also get a lot of swashbuckler companions (Sarah, Milo, Toro, Cat ninja, Samocles, Froggo Villa, mustang Sally).

Here is a cool tip for you in PvP. I saw a buccaneer named Jean Walker do this (he is fully pro). Valkoor also shared this in his PHP thread. Put as much defensive buffs ( eg Levi), and reckless frenzy ONLY musks or witches on the opposing side. You can kill 3-4 low dodge enemies whilst losing only 750 health. Of course this move will be pointless against the privateer who stacks all his acc and dodge buff.

Now for some similarities... I think all our classes have spells so easily farmed for. I mean privateers have 5 assassin strikes, FIVE of them! I think that they only deserve 2 to be honest. You must feel horrible that a great move like vicious can be obtained by everyone, I share ya pain. Then again I suppose we can't complain too much... Privateers must be irratated at musks and witches for having 3 spirit shield available to them. Seriously I hope in the future classes will have more unique spells, cause in my mind it is getting out of hand.

Now the final part, the relentless debate. First of, musks, witches and privy will never get this talent. The battle is between bucks and swashes.

Why should Swashes get relentless and not bucks?
-Swashes have lower talents (like riposte and first strike), whilst Bucc's get a lot (vengeance, turn the tide, hold the line, and I suppose reckless could sort of count)
-Swashes are the damage class, and relentless is a damage spell.
-Bucc's also have glancing blow

Why should bucks get it?
-Since they arguably weaker than most other classes, this will give them an oomph.
- I personally think you should get all of rookes talent in a spell that lasts for 4 turns instead.

Then again, who says that relentless will even be given to any class?

Justin Chamberlain on Jan 27, 2014 wrote:

Then what is the point saying buccaneers are tanks? They are armor people clearly, not interested in mojo stuff so they don't have resistance. It would be an unfair advantage anyway if they had a hun dread resistance.

buccaneers are mostly made to resist incoming attacks. if they are weak against magic it would partially ruin their purpose

TheDragonspyrePira... on Jan 26, 2014 wrote:

First off I hear lots of swashbucklers saying buccaneers shouldn't get anything new that they have like relentless. They say buccaneers are meant to be tanks not damage dealers, I hear you guys saying you guys want heavy armor and buff. Let me say swashbucklers are meant to be damage dealers not tanks. You guys say we shouldn't get anything new. I see posts saying you guys should get new stuff but your already better than us so why should you? Another thing buccaneers have the least amount of natural companions or companions you don't have to pay for. That means we don't get allot of good options. You however do. And most of are companions are low health. We get allot of swashbuckler companions but they are terrible, you get allot of buccaneer companions and they are good. Not fair at all... Not at all. You guys really don't need allot of new stuff but we do. Nothing is really unique to us. It can all be farmed. Buccaneers deserve something cool and unique for once, something that will help in pvp and battles. Nothing you can get. If you have any thing to add post below

Jack nightgale lvl 61 Buccaneer

"choices"......that has alot of positive connotation there. for what it is worth, the classes all get essentially (or so close it doesnt change anything) the same number of companions. the class that does get more is actually privateer. anyway, we each have our own benefits. swashes have high dodge and attack, but little life. bucks have lower stats, but far superior health and armor, not to mention some buffs. typically however, i cannot deny that swashes are stronger.

There is a bit of a problem with Swashbucklers. Swashbucklers can get multiple Leviathan's Call, which is what makes(mostly anyway) Buccaneers rather tough, and despite having somewhat less health, they still have mighty Swashbuckler-level damage, and pretty much become super-brutes(Tough, Powerful, and Fast). Buccaneers, while they can get multiple Assassin Strikes, they lack enough raw damage for them to equal the odds against Swashbucklers with Leviathan's call, and don't have as much speed.
It's kind of why my new main character is a Swashbuckler(even though he is still leveling up). It's also why my Buccaneer has skills normally for the Swashbuckler class(To make him fast(Can easily cross most boards with Vicious Charge)...

Witty Gavin on Mar 12, 2014 wrote:

If you guys want to "even it out", Second Chance seem more of a Privateer power, and Buccaneers should get Relentless. If Swashies had Relentless 1 we would be WAY OP. When you think about it, Buccaneers do get the best weapons and gear in AQ without even farming. We get our last weapon at like after the Troy Dungeon. When you max, EVERYTHING evens out between classes like it should be, each class having different advantages to help each other. If you need better gear or your companions are weak, farm. Try bosses you have done before.
Here's a link to different weapon on P101 Central:
http://www.pirate101central.com/wiki/Category:Weapons

Hope this helps. I really don't like people fighting about different classes on a computer screen. Be happy in the class you chose or just make a new character. We don't need a debate on why different classes are worse or better. They are all the same in value.

Privateers will rarely use natural attacks and they commonly use Assassin's Strike, which can never miss mind you, as an endgame power. Second Chance is pointless on them.

Neither Swashbucklers, nor Buccaneers should have Relentless. Reckless Frenzy is powerful already, and there are alternative ways for Buccaneers to dish-out more damage per round. Relentless on either of those classes overpowering and overwhelming, so I'd hate to see it on either class.

At max level, there still is class imbalance. Just because it's not a major gap, doesn't mean it's not there. Look at what classes dominate the PvP arena, look at what classes can be taken out easily with commonly used strategies or companions. There is some imbalance.

Witchdoctors get relentless Golden Guardian.

TheDragonspyrePira... on Jan 26, 2014 wrote:

First off I hear lots of swashbucklers saying buccaneers shouldn't get anything new that they have like relentless. They say buccaneers are meant to be tanks not damage dealers, I hear you guys saying you guys want heavy armor and buff. Let me say swashbucklers are meant to be damage dealers not tanks. You guys say we shouldn't get anything new. I see posts saying you guys should get new stuff but your already better than us so why should you? Another thing buccaneers have the least amount of natural companions or companions you don't have to pay for. That means we don't get allot of good options. You however do. And most of are companions are low health. We get allot of swashbuckler companions but they are terrible, you get allot of buccaneer companions and they are good. Not fair at all... Not at all. You guys really don't need allot of new stuff but we do. Nothing is really unique to us. It can all be farmed. Buccaneers deserve something cool and unique for once, something that will help in pvp and battles. Nothing you can get. If you have any thing to add post below

Jack nightgale lvl 61 Buccaneer

my swashbuckler is a much better tank than my buccaneer... at around 180 dodge not much can touch my swashbuckler that isn't an attack card... in terms of PvP, there aren't that many characters who use or rely upon melee attacks (most are ranged/magical)