AndrewDeathblade11... on Apr 11, 2016 wrote:

at first i was just going to ask, plainly, "which is better?" but we all kind of know that, altogether, wizard101 is better. let's try to imagine that both games have storylines up to level 110 and tons of side content, and then answer that question again.

what i'm trying to get here is which game has a better story and play style.

comparing this stuff:

• wizards making peace vs. pirates journeying
• magic vs. physical fighting
• solo vs. pirate and crew
• magic circle thing vs. gridded battleboard

I really hate to take issue with this post, but your first statement is way off! Pirate101 is the better game and I'll prove it by using your comparison list.

1. Wizards making peace, well yes, there you have it completely, a glorified policeman. Pirates explore and start revolts against oppressive regimes ( sometimes bending the rules ), Jedi Knights.

2. I love the aspect of the feeling of real battle, the swish and clang of swords, the boom of cannon, the awesome power of a perfect chain when you use Chain Lighting! Plus in W101 your wizard has to wait for pips to cast a spell, when I can use assassin's strike whenever I want.

3. Solo is lonely, with no one at your back and no voice telling you how well you've done.

4. Magic Circle is static and booooring, Gridded Battleboard is dynamic, promotes strategy, exciting because it fully engages your mind.

Agreed with anecorbie.

-your crew is your family; they always have your back and going solo isn't as fun
-the difficulty is MUCH easier when compared to the wizards! When I started Zafaria I found it impossible to do it alone!
-the voices are much less cringe worthy....at times.

It goes on
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And on.... and on....

-creates list as big as the wait span for book 15-

i'm not a hardcore w101 player, i just log on like a few times a month and fight the loremaster. i'm at level 52 and i have like zero gold so i never have anything fun to do. i could try actually questing but i'm not strong enough to kill any enemies solo.

with my first statement, i was just basing that on the frequent updating. i'm pretty sure nobody on these forums thinks that kingsisle works on wizard101 and pirate101 equally.

Well, if your criteria is which game receives more love from KI, Wizard is about 18.3 times better than Pirate.

By pretty much any other measure, Pirate is the better game.

-Indigo

Now, I play both games and pirate101 is easily better. And that's because pirate101 doesn't have zafaria. Okay, i'm kidding, kind of. Now, i'm only in Avalon, but I've been playing wizard101 since about 2009.

1. Wizard101 can get really, really boring, really really fast. I usually log off after doing a few quests now (unless i'm near the end of a world) because of how boring it can get.

2. Cheating bosses. Now, once again i'm only in Avalon and I've only seen a few, but my friends tell me they're everywhere. Cheating bosses used to be kind of cool and a slight challenge and now they're so common no body really cares anymore.

3. It is really difficult to solo in this game. The last time i manged to solo most of the way through the world was Dragonspyre and even still I needed help a lot. Oh, and before you say that's because my stats were terrible, I was actually higher leveled then I needed to be and I had gear from the crowns shop, which brings me to my next point...

4.You either need to farm bosses a bunch, craft gear that's takes forever to find materiel for or shell out some cash to get crowns gear. Now, I personally crafted myself gear, but in pirate101 I use some easily dropped gear from the tower. Now, some people do go out of their way and farm for extremely good gear, but I get along fine with the gear I have and I didn't have to waste hours of my time to get it.

I could go on and on, but i'm starting to run out of space. I could talk about the villains, pvp, characters, story, ect...but I think I've made my point. Also, I don't hate wizard101; if I did then I wouldn't be playing it. But it's obvious that Pirate101 is the better game.

Dogsrock5656 on Apr 12, 2016 wrote:

Now, I play both games and pirate101 is easily better. And that's because pirate101 doesn't have zafaria. Okay, i'm kidding, kind of. Now, i'm only in Avalon, but I've been playing wizard101 since about 2009.

1. Wizard101 can get really, really boring, really really fast. I usually log off after doing a few quests now (unless i'm near the end of a world) because of how boring it can get.

2. Cheating bosses. Now, once again i'm only in Avalon and I've only seen a few, but my friends tell me they're everywhere. Cheating bosses used to be kind of cool and a slight challenge and now they're so common no body really cares anymore.

3. It is really difficult to solo in this game. The last time i manged to solo most of the way through the world was Dragonspyre and even still I needed help a lot. Oh, and before you say that's because my stats were terrible, I was actually higher leveled then I needed to be and I had gear from the crowns shop, which brings me to my next point...

4.You either need to farm bosses a bunch, craft gear that's takes forever to find materiel for or shell out some cash to get crowns gear. Now, I personally crafted myself gear, but in pirate101 I use some easily dropped gear from the tower. Now, some people do go out of their way and farm for extremely good gear, but I get along fine with the gear I have and I didn't have to waste hours of my time to get it.

I could go on and on, but i'm starting to run out of space. I could talk about the villains, pvp, characters, story, ect...but I think I've made my point. Also, I don't hate wizard101; if I did then I wouldn't be playing it. But it's obvious that Pirate101 is the better game.

Just you wait until you hit Azteca. Now, I can understand that certain bosses ( especially end of chapter bosses ) should have better health and a few cheats, but when side quest bosses are given the same things?
Face it, W101 has become extremely hostile to the solo player.
And don't tell me to use team up - do you know how many times I attempted Xibalba? 5 times, because of chicken hearted players taking one look at the first battle and fleeing!
Fortunately I got a team up, I and another player duo-ed the whole thing, being defeated by Malistaire, healing and porting back, over and over.

AndrewDeathblade11... on Apr 11, 2016 wrote:

at first i was just going to ask, plainly, "which is better?" but we all kind of know that, altogether, wizard101 is better. let's try to imagine that both games have storylines up to level 110 and tons of side content, and then answer that question again.

what i'm trying to get here is which game has a better story and play style.

comparing this stuff:

• wizards making peace vs. pirates journeying
• magic vs. physical fighting
• solo vs. pirate and crew
• magic circle thing vs. gridded battleboard

Ok, so about three seconds ago I made the same post on the Wizard101 message boards and when I came here, guess what I saw? Pretty ironic, huh?

Anyway...

1. Pretty self explanatory. Peace making is important, but the pirate's journeying adds a whole new twist to it. And no, P101 journeying isn't just stealing loot from other pirate crews. Starting wars, the armada, ending regimes, the armada, saving peoples' tushys, the armada, and a lot more (oh yeah, and the armada).

2. Once again, Pirate101 incorporates both. You can use both your weapon and the forces of magic. Heals, buffs, poisons, and hoodoo are all used in P101 as well as your weapon.

3. Solo is really boring; you have nobody for suggestions or comic relief. Companions make the game a lot more interesting, with more backstory and twists to the storyline.

4. Don't get me started. Too late, I'm already starting. The board game combat lets you use more strategy, and you can use your brain instead of shooting spells back and forth like you do in Wizard.

I do understand why you think W101 is better than P101, but I personally think otherwise.

Wicked Aaron Brewster

AndrewDeathblade11... on Apr 11, 2016 wrote:

at first i was just going to ask, plainly, "which is better?" but we all kind of know that, altogether, wizard101 is better. let's try to imagine that both games have storylines up to level 110 and tons of side content, and then answer that question again.

what i'm trying to get here is which game has a better story and play style.

comparing this stuff:

• wizards making peace vs. pirates journeying
• magic vs. physical fighting
• solo vs. pirate and crew
• magic circle thing vs. gridded battleboard

I suppose I'll throw in my two cents.

I started playing Wizard101 in 2009 & quickly fell in love with it. It's a charming game; I have many memories of mostly soloing for six years, infrequently playing with a good IRL friend, & having to team up to take on tougher dungeons. I joined the Pirate community in 2014 & some friends here have been able to help me in Wiz (you know who you are, & I thank you). I have strong attachments to Wiz, but Pirate's stolen my heart in the three-ish (I'm not sure when I started;I think it was late 2012, early 2013) years I've been playing.

Anecorbie compared Wizards to "glorified policemen". I somewhat disagree; the Wizard is a student on top of being a kid with a huge destiny -- part of the implied story is their school experience. Yes, we end up saving the Spiral numerous times & restoring peace to troubled lands, but doesn't the Pirate do that also? The Wizard (player) also journeys & grows personally during these adventures. I think the Wizard's quest mirrors the Pirate's. They're both faced with threats that could topple the balance of the Spiral & are the "only one" who can stop that from happening. I think they're very similar in that regard.

I have no huge quarrel with Wizard's battle system besides it becoming ridiculous to solo starting at the end of Celestia. Stats & strategy are hugely important. Frankly I think it's silly to expect that sort of thing from people playing a family game. I prefer Pirate in this instance because of the more dynamic grid battle system & the ability to not be overwhelmed in fights because we have a crew & are not expected to take cheaters & creatures with massive health on solo. The spells become a bit repetitive after some time, but there isn't a lot of variety that could be added in a set sigil battle. Our crew has a lot of character & makes things more interesting.

Overall, I love both games for different reasons, but Pirate is more dear to me. I enjoy the story & interaction more than Wiz.

AndrewDeathblade11... on Apr 11, 2016 wrote:

at first i was just going to ask, plainly, "which is better?" but we all kind of know that, altogether, wizard101 is better. let's try to imagine that both games have storylines up to level 110 and tons of side content, and then answer that question again.

what i'm trying to get here is which game has a better story and play style.

comparing this stuff:

• wizards making peace vs. pirates journeying
• magic vs. physical fighting
• solo vs. pirate and crew
• magic circle thing vs. gridded battleboard

Your just asking to get disagreed with saying W101 is better on the P101 boards

That's like asking which ice cream you love more I love them both equally and always will I'm in the games for the story not for how it looks or plays but that's just my opinion everyone has their own your always going to get a half of the response you want and the other half you won't want everyone is different

I've played Wizard since, well, since the beginning of it all pretty much. Way back in early 2009. I enjoyed it a lot, and still do a little. The problem is, I play solo. Itook me a year and a half alone to beat Azteca. Of course, I quit playing sometime in that time span because of OP bosses, and things like that. I honestly think Pirate is a much better game. It's way more realistic, has a more intriguing battle, and more than just one kind of fight. You could fight on land, and blast ships out of the sky. Another thing I really love about pirate is the companions. It made this game so much more different than wizard. You have a family with you, who are part of a very interesting and intriguing story. The story in wizard is pretty bland. The pirate story is one of the reasons I continue to play. I want to find out what Kanes end game is! I also want to know how we will defeat the armada in the end. I think overall, pirate is much better than wiz, even with a lack of crafting, and all the other stuff wiz has that pirate doesn't. Just my personal opinion, but I think if you put them both into close comparison between gameplay, and story, pirate will come out on top.

AndrewDeathblade11... on Apr 11, 2016 wrote:

at first i was just going to ask, plainly, "which is better?" but we all kind of know that, altogether, wizard101 is better. let's try to imagine that both games have storylines up to level 110 and tons of side content, and then answer that question again.

what i'm trying to get here is which game has a better story and play style.

comparing this stuff:

• wizards making peace vs. pirates journeying
• magic vs. physical fighting
• solo vs. pirate and crew
• magic circle thing vs. gridded battleboard

You say wizard is better without supporting that statement. Can you tell us why wizard is supposedly better?

The whole wizards making peace while pirates journey is a bit feeble. My wizards can't seem to get from point A to point B without smacking the snot out of someone or other. At least I expect a pirate on a voyage to have some conflict.

Pirates get to use magic and brawling. Wizards stand around in circles and throw cards at each other. And wizards can't really solo, not after Avalon. You have to have help for the bosses, simply because of the continual (seriously annoying) cheats. With a bit of judicious planning, Pirate is solo-able as far through the story line as we've gone. Because of the issues with properly scaling the magic, wizards even need to have mounts that grant boosts. That's a huge weakness in the game. It doesn't affect my enjoyment particularly, but it isn't enhancing it either.

Circle thing annoys me. I like the battleboard and the pets that do more than stand there looking bemused while my wizard is getting bombarded with spells. Yeah I'd like to be able to put the pet on a leash sometimes, but overall they are a huge benefit.

That said, I enjoy both games. I have multiple accounts with multiple wizards/pirates. Which is better depends on my mood at the moment.