in fact, this could be a really cool direction for the nautical portion of P101. As it is, naval combat is . . . Boring. its not tactically involved. we just sit next to the enemy and press a button as soon as it stops being grey. if maneuvering was able to actually become a prominent part of ship combat, the whole ordeal would feel much less stale and grindy.

Well, going over and under ships would be cool. I'd love to see KI put this to use.

Hey! I think that would be pretty cool. Or what if we could also go above or below and find pieces of land/new locations to dock and explore? I think not that many people have responded since the boards seem to be a little bit quieter because of no world update.

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Blixet on Apr 8, 2015 wrote:

In the Skyways, everything is set in a two dimensional space. other ships, flying creatures, the islands, everything. however, i had an extremely vivid dream last night (most likely from playing late-night P101) of playing P101 (shocking, isnt it?) with one major difference: when farming for ships in aquila, the farming team and I were going above to drop bombs on it, or sinking lower and going under the enemy ship to avoid its cannons. i think this would be extremely cool, and would certainly add more layers to the nautical side of p101. perhaps the lighter a ship is, the faster it can ascend or descend. this would validate picking a skiff over a galleon, and promote variety in the community based off a player's preference: maneuverability versus tankiness. that being said, it would also necessitate alterations to many ships and pieces of ship equipment.

so, my fellow marauders, what says ye?

As much as this is cool and all, I don't think that KI should focus their time on that right now. I think p101's naval combat system is great as is.

I want to clarify something: while its a technical truth that a galleon would have a much larger sail, and thus would be capable of more speed than a skiff or a frigate, that would be counter productive to one of the goals i have for this idea. I would love for there to be a diverse selection of ships for players to choose from, each and all with benefits. for a direct class comparison, we could call a skiff a swash, a galleon a buck, and a Frigate the middle ground. hopefully, in the future, there will be a more diverse selection of ships to choose from.

that said, for now I hope they maintain production on the story update. I think this would be a cool idea, but I would much prefer a new world to an improved naval experience.

Blixet on Apr 13, 2015 wrote:

the idea was that a smaller ship would be more areodynamic, and thus be able to fall further faster. gravity, in case you didnt notice, seems to be a little . . . iffy . . . in lots of places. if a giant land mass can float in the sky with ease, then i dont think we can (scientifically speaking) assume that gravitational pull will have an impact on altitude. thats just my assesment, anyway. as for the controls for ascending and descending, it could be whatever. I'm reluctant to make suggestions, since many keys are shortcuts. also, you dont seem rude at all, Constructive criticism is always appreciated!

thank you all for responding! its nice to see the community in action, even if its less robust than before.

I do agree that gravity isn't as prevalent in this game as it would be in real life. However, it must exist. If there wasn't, we'd just float around and wouldn't really need a ship except for going through storm gates. Also, there's not really a clear explanation as to what would happen if you went overboard. Perhaps this is because KI thinks it's obvious what would happen.

Now, as for science, this is my area. This is a fantasy game, so I will be using "magic" for any forces not prevalent in real life. Now, the only way to counteract gravity in real life is to exert a force more powerful than gravity can push you down. Now, because nothing ever seems to rise in this game, it's safe to assume almost everything exerts some kind of force equal to gravity. Even debris just floats. This is likely due to magic. It probably doesn't affect the player and NPCs because the magic doesn't affect living things because... reasons. Now, a lot of people hang out at Avery's Court. That many people would exert more force onto the island. The magic likely adjusts with the force of the island to make sure it can stay afloat.

But, that's just my theory.

FireMorgan13 on Apr 14, 2015 wrote:

I do agree that gravity isn't as prevalent in this game as it would be in real life. However, it must exist. If there wasn't, we'd just float around and wouldn't really need a ship except for going through storm gates. Also, there's not really a clear explanation as to what would happen if you went overboard. Perhaps this is because KI thinks it's obvious what would happen.

Now, as for science, this is my area. This is a fantasy game, so I will be using "magic" for any forces not prevalent in real life. Now, the only way to counteract gravity in real life is to exert a force more powerful than gravity can push you down. Now, because nothing ever seems to rise in this game, it's safe to assume almost everything exerts some kind of force equal to gravity. Even debris just floats. This is likely due to magic. It probably doesn't affect the player and NPCs because the magic doesn't affect living things because... reasons. Now, a lot of people hang out at Avery's Court. That many people would exert more force onto the island. The magic likely adjusts with the force of the island to make sure it can stay afloat.

But, that's just my theory.

If we can use magic to explain some things, then we can use magic to explain all things. its simply not realistic (in my point of view) to say that magic is keeping things from falling, then say that it is physically unrealistic for x to falls faster than y. If this magic is holding up some of the islands in this world, then there is no way our ship would be able to maneuver vertically... unless the ships themselves would become magical.

MY view has always been that either we ride on super-condensed air beneath us or that there is an incredibly strong and constant direct vertical wind, everywhere, always. if either of those were the case, then hypothetically a skiff could be capable of faster and more responsive ascension/descension and vice versa.

either way, i just literally scientifically/logically considered the implications of magically flying in a three dimensional space in a pirate video game. i think its time to realign my life goals.