So, I've been playing a lot of PvP on my musket lately, and I was doing quite well for a long while. in fact, I had a 15 game win-streak going on, with only 17 games played. Then, today happened.

I faced 4 consecutive champions. Well, 3 consecutive champions, one of them twice. Now, while i may be a little salty about my win streak ending (each of those four battles was a blowout-loss, by the way) I can get over that i lost. my issue is that I was a hero (score of 226 or so) at the time. To be champion, you need a score of 400.

My issue is that i was going up against people with scores that were roughly double mine. I'm sure its understandable that this is extremely frustrating, right? if I'm a hero, i want to go up against other Heroes. I want the champions to go up against other champions. I don't like being steam rolled by players that probably have double or triple the amount of PvP experience that I do. It. Is. Not. Fun.

Now, I was told whilst whining about Privys using Nausica/Scratch Cheese in the PvP lobby that having a high win - loss ratio meant that you were more likely to be matched with higher ranking players. That is fine by me; but if thats the case, then shouldn't a win streak also get me more points per win, so that my PvP rank is still anywhere near whatever value that represents the caliber of opponent I face? If the game says I'm fit to fight champions, (which i totally wasn't for the record) then shouldn't the game also assign me a rank, (and the rewards, more importantly ) fitting of that rank?

my 15 game win streak has been replaced with a 4 game losing streak, and while I understand and have no issues with the game making me fight champion level players, I feel like my rewards for competing should at least be comparable to the ostensible challenge.

Or, perhaps there was simply no other available players and I got the short end of the stick against some skilled pirates. I guess it happens, and I feel my point stands.

As for my point, allow me to condense it into this statement: The reward/potential for reward of any event/action in any game should always fit the challenge of the said event/action. PvE bosses drop top tier loot. High ranking matches drop tons of scrip. A medium ranking player, if made to fight a high ranking player, should either receive a reward comparable to the challenge or should not be made to fight that player.

Thanks for reading.
-Matthew Walker

Blixet on Jun 6, 2016 wrote:

So, I've been playing a lot of PvP on my musket lately, and I was doing quite well for a long while. in fact, I had a 15 game win-streak going on, with only 17 games played. Then, today happened.

I faced 4 consecutive champions. Well, 3 consecutive champions, one of them twice. Now, while i may be a little salty about my win streak ending (each of those four battles was a blowout-loss, by the way) I can get over that i lost. my issue is that I was a hero (score of 226 or so) at the time. To be champion, you need a score of 400.

My issue is that i was going up against people with scores that were roughly double mine. I'm sure its understandable that this is extremely frustrating, right? if I'm a hero, i want to go up against other Heroes. I want the champions to go up against other champions. I don't like being steam rolled by players that probably have double or triple the amount of PvP experience that I do. It. Is. Not. Fun.

Now, I was told whilst whining about Privys using Nausica/Scratch Cheese in the PvP lobby that having a high win - loss ratio meant that you were more likely to be matched with higher ranking players. That is fine by me; but if thats the case, then shouldn't a win streak also get me more points per win, so that my PvP rank is still anywhere near whatever value that represents the caliber of opponent I face? If the game says I'm fit to fight champions, (which i totally wasn't for the record) then shouldn't the game also assign me a rank, (and the rewards, more importantly ) fitting of that rank?

my 15 game win streak has been replaced with a 4 game losing streak, and while I understand and have no issues with the game making me fight champion level players, I feel like my rewards for competing should at least be comparable to the ostensible challenge.

Or, perhaps there was simply no other available players and I got the short end of the stick against some skilled pirates. I guess it happens, and I feel my point stands.

As for my point, allow me to condense it into this statement: The reward/potential for reward of any event/action in any game should always fit the challenge of the said event/action. PvE bosses drop top tier loot. High ranking matches drop tons of scrip. A medium ranking player, if made to fight a high ranking player, should either receive a reward comparable to the challenge or should not be made to fight that player.

Thanks for reading.
-Matthew Walker

It depends who is sitting in the queue waiting for a match up. Are you facing level 65 pirates regardless of their rank? Isn't it a fact that you and they have farmed the best gear? So how are you being outmatched? Does being a champion confer more strength, agility, dodge or armor according to rank? Or isn't it a fact that they are just like you in gear and experience?
The thing about the majority of champions is that they practice and PVP relentlessly to the exclusion of any other activity. In other words, you're facing the P101 equivalent of Olympic athletes.

anecorbie on Jun 6, 2016 wrote:

It depends who is sitting in the queue waiting for a match up. Are you facing level 65 pirates regardless of their rank? Isn't it a fact that you and they have farmed the best gear? So how are you being outmatched? Does being a champion confer more strength, agility, dodge or armor according to rank? Or isn't it a fact that they are just like you in gear and experience?
The thing about the majority of champions is that they practice and PVP relentlessly to the exclusion of any other activity. In other words, you're facing the P101 equivalent of Olympic athletes.

I'm not saying that I didn't have a chance, or that I was outmatched (well, actually nausica does outmatch just about any companion, especially when buffed by a privy, but that's besides the point and obviously not going to be addressed by KI) I was very definitely outplayed in each of these situations. Yes, even the one i'm still salty over.

My point is that, even if I had won and they had lost, they would have received more scrip than I. The problem is not so much that it occurred, I understand that a low amount of players in the queue guarantees that things like that will happen. The problem is that the rewards simply don't fit the challenge. if x = 5, and y = 10, (variable being the player and number being their rank) then X v Y should reward X, even in a loss, with the amount of scrip that Y would get, to compensate for the uneven match. I also think that players that lose to opponents with a higher rank should lose less points than they would had they lost to someone of their own rank.

I kind of doubt that these changes would be seriously considered, but I think that they would objectively improve the PvP experience without ruining queue times for high ranking players.