crafting?

I love both on Wizard (even though they've left crafting to die in my opinion), and it would give me something to do when I'm done with all the characters.

It appears you're not alone! click . . . (although there does seem to be a debate going on here)

Thomas Stormweaver on Dec 9, 2012 wrote:

I've never heard of a real wizard either.

It's not a matter of reality or fantasy. You may not have ever heard of a real wizard, but I bet you would recognize someone dressed as one. There are certain traits that are attributed to these types of characters. Would you feel cheated if you played a pirate game where there were no eye patches or ships? Would you want a wizard that couldn't cast any spells? I wizard who couldn't cast spells would be realistic, since they don't actually exist, but it would be against the point. Maybe there were pirates who gardened, but it just doesn't feel like something that fits my perception of what a pirate should be. Maybe you would like a swashbuckling farmer, but I would guess that most people don't think of those things in the same context any more than I would imagine a wizard as an air traffic controller . . . even though that's where many of them find work.

I just get bummed out when I see someone using the "reality argument" when what we're talking about mostly is aesthetics. I see this same thing when someone can't come up with a good counter argument and just says, *sarcasm* "but the talking animals are totally realistic, right?" *end sarcasm* I don't mean to sound harsh, but what's real isn't what's in question. It whether, hypothetically, people want to see pirate gardeners or not. To me, that does not feel like something I'd see a pirate doing. Reality has nothing to do with it.

Gardening and crafting was not totally unknown to pirates, but usually.

In a realistic sense, ships at sea spent months sailing, in this era, and subsisted on easily stored food and drink. Such food and drink they often bought, but they also created their own jerky, and grew citrus trees on board. Limes were particularly popular as a source of vitamin C, to prevent scurvy (which is why British sailors are called Limeys).

So, being able to craft items which would produce a one-time strength/agility/will boost makes some sense.

Thomas Stormweaver on Dec 11, 2012 wrote:

Reality has nothing to do with it but you don't see pirates gardening. You've contradicted yourself.

No one has to garden just because they implement it. If you can't see your pirate wanting to garden, then don't garden. I would just like the option.

I've gone back to playing Wizard now because of gardening, crafting and pet hatching. Pirate101 needs to keep you busy once you've done everything you can possibly do, which I have on every type of character except a witchdoctor, which I have no interest in.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for adding more depth and complexity to the experience. I just think it should come in a different form than exactly what Wizard101 has. Pets in Pirate101 act differently. Item creation should be different as well. Fishing and gathering make a lot more sense to me, given the theme of the game. Crafting could take the form of cobling things together, Flotsam style. Flotsam, of all the in-game cities, feel the most piratey to me and I'd love to see that idea of resourceful improvisation carried over to something the player could create. Found a rock and a stick? Make a new smashy weapon. Found a shark tooth? Cobble that on there two for a smashy/slashy weapon.

Pirate101, at it's core, has a theme of piecing together your crew, piecing together your gear and piecing together your ship. Wizard101 was focused on an almost collegiate atmosphere where cultivating a garden as well as learning to be a craftsman and training your pets made sense. Pirates are a bit more ramshackle, yet industrious. Their constructions are based on immediate need.

As I said, ships that spent weeks if not months at sea often grew citris trees as a source of vitamin C. That is a form of gardening.